보너스 시스템을 통한 RTP 사기

Hello folks!

I would like to initiate a discussion about RTP fraud through bonuses with withdrawal restrictions.

Suppose someone (by someone, I mean myself) wins €20,000 at Vegas Now with a 100% bonus. The maximum bonus limit is €5,000. You pay out €5,000, and the rest is forfeited. What happens to the game provider's RTP already paid out by the player who won €20,000? Is this reported back to the game provider by the casino and entered into the RTP system?

Or, and this is my suspicion: Nothing happens, and the RTP paid out is lost to subsequent players, and the machines fail. The casino indirectly earns large sums of money by reducing the future RTP.

Hallo Leute!

Ich möchte eine Diskussion anregen über RTP- Betrug durch Bonuse mit Auszahlungsbeschränkungen.

Angenommen jemand (mit jemand meine ich mich) gewinnt bei vegas now 20000 Euro mit einem 100% Bonus. Die Obergrenze mit Bonus beträgt 5000Euro. Sie zahlen 5000Euro aus und der Rest verfällt. Was passiert mit den bereits ausgepielten RTP des Spieleanbieters durch den Spieler der 20000 gewonnen hat. Wird das wieder vom Casino an den Spieleanbieter rückgemeldet und ins RTP- System eingepflegt.

Oder und das ist meine Verdacht: Nichts passiert und die ausgepielten RTP fehlen den darauffolgenden Spielern und die Automaten gehen schlecht. Das Casino verdient damit indirekt hohe Beträge da sie die zukünftige RTP verringern.

Hey there!

There seems to be a bit of a mix-up in how RTP and bonus limits work, so let’s clear that up.

1) RTP (Return to Player) is a long-term statistical measure built into the game by the provider. It doesn’t depend on what happens with individual withdrawals, bonus limits, or how much a casino actually pays you in the end. The RTP isn’t "paid out" in the sense of real euros that get tracked or refunded — it’s just math based on all game rounds over time.

2) When a casino limits a win (like only paying €5,000 from a €20,000 bonus win), that limitation happens after the game result. The slot provider has already logged the full €20,000 win as part of the normal game math, because from the game’s perspective, that’s what happened. The casino’s system then enforces its own withdrawal rule — it doesn’t "tell the slot" to adjust anything.

So nothing gets "reported back" to the provider, and the RTP of the slot stays exactly the same. It also doesn’t mean future players will get worse RTP; the slot’s RNG and return calculations aren’t influenced by how much someone actually got to keep.

In short:

• The RTP doesn’t care about bonus restrictions.
• The casino doesn’t gain extra RTP from forfeited funds.
• The only "fraud" here is how confusing these rules can be, I'd say. 🙂