BetOnRed Casino - 일반 토론 (4 페이지)

I tried on Saturday, the deposit was 350,- the winnings were 2,840,- and I made a withdrawal. When I read all the discussions, I was worried that nothing would come, and today, Monday afternoon, the winnings were credited to the account. So my experience is positive. 😁👏

V sobotu jsem vyzkoušela,vklad byl 350,- výhra byla 2 840,- a dala jsem vybrat.Když jsem četla veškeré diskuze tak jsem měla obavy že nic nepřijde a dnes v Pondělí odpoledne výhra byla připsána na účet.Takže má zkušenost je pozitivní.😁👏

It is really nice to see some positive experience, thank you for sharing. In case you like to write a review for this casino, here is the link ,👈 where you can do so. More players would like to hear about this, I reckon. 😉

This is not just about the loss of the winnings of more than 60k, but about the fact that I was SCAMMED and I will - if necessary - invest as much money again to fight these machinations not only in court, but above all to display in public!!!

At that point I had FOUR (!!!) open withdrawals from four consecutive days because the casino only allows 3k withdrawals per day and on the 4th day I heard that the withdrawals still hadn't been processed, even though my account had was verified for a long time - all of this is PROVEN (screenshots, chat histories, etc.)!

At the same time, the casino violated their own terms and conditions (including "withdrawals will be processed within 24 hours") and that is the real scandal!

BetOnRed tries absolutely everything to avoid having to make withdrawals, because if you look at the reviews, I'm far from the only one!

BetOnRed gets away with it because no one fights back, but in my case they got the wrong person, because if the casino doesn't give in and propose a solution asap, it will cost them damn dearly, because money is one thing, but bad publicity is much worse!

AND I WILL TAKE CARE OF IT!!!

Hier geht es nicht ausschließlich um den Verlust des Gewinns in der Höhe von mehr als 60k, sondern darum, dass ich BETROGEN wurde und ich werde -falls notwendig- nochmal so viel Geld investieren, um diese Machenschaften nicht nur vor Gericht, sondern vor allem auch in der Öffentlichkeit darzustellen!!!

Ich hatte zu besagtem Zeitpunkt VIER (!!!) offene Auszahlungen von vier aufeinanderfolgenden Tagen, da das Casino nur 3k Auszahlung pro Tag zulässt und am 4. Tag bekam ich zu hören, dass die Auszahlungen immer noch nicht bearbeitet wurden, obwohl mein Konto schon lange verifiziert war - all das ist NACHWEISBAR (Screenshots, Chat-Verläufe etc.)!

Gleichzeitig hat das Casino dadurch gegen ihre eigenen AGBs verstoßen (u.a. "Auszahlungen werden innerhalb von 24 Stunden bearbeitet") und das ist der eigentliche Skandal!

BetOnRed versucht absolut alles, um Auszahlungen nicht durchführen zu müssen, denn wenn man sich die Rezensionen ansieht, bin ich bei weitem nicht der Einzige!

BetOnRed kommt damit durch, weil sich niemand dagegen wehrt, aber in meinem Fall sind sie an den Falschen geraten, denn sollte das Casino nicht einlenken und asap einen Lösungsvorschlag unterbreiten, wird sie das verdammt teuer kommen, denn Geld ist das eine, aber schlechte Publicity ist noch viel schlimmer!

UND ICH WERDE DAFÜR SORGEN!!!

Addendum:

Anyone who is blind can see that BetOnRed has bought a large part of the positive reviews on Trustpilot (especially a lot from Poland with mostly only one previous review... very "weird") and no one is doing anything about it either!

This misleads potential customers!!!

Actually, everyone is committing a crime by confirming that they were not instigated to write this review, but since no one can trace it, it is tolerated!

SICK SYSTEM!!!

Nachtrag:

Jeder Blinde sieht, dass BetOnRed einen Großteil der positiven Rezensionen auf Trustpilot gekauft hat (vor allem jede Menge aus Polen mit meistens nur einem einzigen bisherigen Review... sehr "komisch") und auch dagegen tut niemand etwas!

Dadurch werden potentielle Kunden in die Irre geführt!!!

Eigentlich macht sich jeder dadurch strafbar, da man bestätigt, dass man nicht zu dieser Rezension angestiftet wurde, aber da es niemand rückverfolgen kann, wird es geduldet!

KRANKES SYSTEM!!!

Yes, thank you for elaborating more. And that's exactly why I was asking why you didn't file a complaint back then. If the casino had not responded or tried to resolve the situation and the complaint had ended up unresolved, it would have received black points which would have had an effect on the safety index. I therefore advise players in such cases to ask if they need help. 

However, since you have already moved it to higher places, I am curious how it will turn out and I would like to know if you will have any result. Would it then be possible to share it with us if it is not a problem ? 

As far as reviews are concerned, I think the players can recognize what could be fake and what could not. That's why we pay attention to the process of accepting or rejecting reviews and try to catch all the similar ones that come to us. 

Unfortunately, it is becoming more and more common that players, even with the prospect of some free spins or bonuses, want to write a good review even though they may not have the best experience in the casino. It's a pity but it's true.

You are honored by your honesty regarding the reviews you bought, even if I didn't mean Casino Guru at all, but above all Trustpilot!

I've known this behavior for a long time, but at BetOnRed it's more extreme or noticeable than ever before!

Unfortunately, BetOnRed obviously "invests" so much in these positive reviews that the number is so high that you really have to read "between the lines" very carefully in order not to fall into the trap...

Since very few people do this, there will still be many people harmed by BetOnRed and that is exactly what I will do everything I can to counteract this!

Ihre Ehrlichkeit bezüglich der erkauften Bewertungen ehrt Sie, auch wenn ich hierbei gar nicht Casino Guru meinte, sondern vor allem Trustpilot!

Ich kenne diese Handhabe schon lange Zeit, aber bei BetOnRed ist es so extrem bzw. auffällig wie nie zuvor!

Leider ist es so, dass BetOnRed offensichtlich so viel in diese positiven Bewertungen "investiert", sodass die Anzahl so hoch ist, dass man wirklich sehr akribisch "zwischen den Zeilen" lesen muss, um nicht in die Falle zu tappen...

Da dies die wenigsten tun, wird es noch viele durch BetOnRed Geschädigte geben und genau dem werde ich mit all meinen Möglichkeiten entgegenwirken!

We would definitely not buy any user reviews. Our goal is to make them unbiased and honest, because that is the most important thing. 

I think that when there are a lot of positive reviews, players who have been gambling for a long time can recognize which are fake. There is always a pattern. 

However, because we are careful, we always reject such reviews. 

Anyway, I hope you manage to resolve your fight against the casino fairly. 

If you have any news, don't hesitate to let me know. 🙂

I really like the layout of Betonred and Ninecasino... Could anyone recommend other casinos with this same layout?

Gosto muito do Layout da Betonred e Ninecasino... Alguém saberia indicar outros cassinos com esse mesmo layout?

Oh, I'm glad you like a similar layout, but I probably won't be able to help you with that. I was thinking to see if the casino has any sister casinos and they might be ok but I didn't find any. Obviously you will have to get some advice from a player or you will have to search to find similar ones. 

Anyway, do you have any experience here or haven't you played here ? 🙂

Hello guys, I had a completely different experience with BetonRed Casino. In my opinion one of the fastest casinos when it comes to payouts. Since yesterday 2000 euros have been paid out without any problems.

At first I was afraid that the same thing would happen to me after reading the posts here, but everything worked out great. Verification was also quick.

Moin Jungs, ich hab eine komplett andere Erfahrung gemacht mit BetonRed Casino. Meiner Meinung nach einer der schnellsten Casinos was Auszahlungen betrifft. Seit gestern 2000 euro ausgezahlt ohne Probleme.

İch hatte zuerst befürchtet, nachdem ich die Beiträge hier gelesen habe, das mir dasselbe passiert aber es hat alles supee geklappt. Verifizierung ging auch schnell.

That's perfect, I'm glad that at least someone has a good experience after these last posts I've read. How long did the withdrawal and verification take when they were fast ? 😊🤗

The betonred casino homepage was missing the bonus terms for maximum amount of profit.

I made a deposit of 50 euros and was credited but 27 euros automatically as a second deposit bonus.

The only information available was the x35 bonus rollover.

I won the amount of 2600 euros on a slot machine with real money before entering the bonus fund.

I also completed the bonus wagering requirement which was 966 euros.

Still I got 2276 deducted.

There is currently an open complaint with Casino Guru which admitted that the terms for maximum bonus winnings were missing from the casino website.

Do you know what the casino proposal was, betonred?

Give me 100 euros in bonus.

Guys are funny

Από την κεντρική σελίδα του καζίνο betonred έλειπαν οι όροι μπόνους για μέγιστο ποσό κέρδους.

Έκανα μια κατάθεση 50 ευρώ και μου πιστώθηκαν αλλά 27 ευρώ αυτόματα ως μπόνους δεύτερης κατάθεσης.

Η μόνη πληροφορία που υπήρχε διαθέσιμη ήταν το τζιραρισμα του μπόνους χ35.

Κέρδισα σε κουλοχέρη το ποσό των 2600 ευρώ με πραγματικά χρήματα πριν εισέλθω στο κεφάλαιο μπόνους.

Ολοκλήρωσα και τον απαιτούμενο στοιχηματισμου του μπόνους που ήταν 966 ευρώ.

Παρόλα αυτά μου αφαιρέθηκαν 2276.

Αυτήν στιγμή υπάρχει ανοιχτό παράπονο στο καζίνο γκουρού το οποίο δέχτηκε ότι έλειπαν από τον ιστότοπο του καζίνο οι όροι για μέγιστο ποσό κέρδους από μπόνους.

Ξέρετε ποια ήταν η πρόταση του καζινο ,betonred?

Nα μου δώσουν 100 ευρώ σε μπόνους.

Είναι αστείοι οι τυποι

Hey, so I would say that's not exactly a deal breaker. You didn't find anywhere the amount you can take out of the bonus ? Usually the English version of the Terms and Conditions is considered to be the most useful, so it wasn't there either ? Did you read any other version or why it was missing, did you ask the casino ? 

Anyway, since you have an open complaint, let's see how our team will deal with it and what will be done about it. I hope everything will be resolved fairly. 

Dear jaro

The English version of the site as I have proven did not contain this paragraph.

I couldn't read anything else because this particular casino was not legally licensed in my country.

The only link that provided access to my country does not mention anywhere about a maximum amount of bonus profit.

He was added after my win and filing a complaint with casino guru.

Αγαπητέ jaro

H έκδοση του ιστότοπου στα αγγλικά όπως έχω αποδείξει δεν περιείχε την συγκεκριμένη παράγραφο.

Δεν μπορούσα να διαβάσω τίποτε άλλο γιατί το συγκεκριμένο καζίνο δεν είχε νόμιμη άδεια λειτουργίας στων χώρα μου.

Το μόνο λινκ που παρείχε πρόσβαση στην χώρα μου δεν αναφέρει πουθενά για μέγιστο ποσό κέρδους από μπόνους.

Τον πρόσθεσαν μετά αφού προηγήθηκε η νίκη μου και η υποβολή καταγγελίας στο καζίνο γκουρου.

It's a blatant violation of fair play

Είναι κατάφωρη παραβίαση των δικαίων όρων παιγνιδιού

You just can't be naive and be sure what the conditions and rules are. I actually saw that you can win a maximum of between 600-700 euros. That's why I played without a bonus. Unfortunately, it's your own fault.

İhr dürft einfach nicht naiv sein und sicher gehen was die Bedingungen und Regeln sind. İch hab tatsächlich gesehen das man max. Iwas zwischen 600-700 euro gewinnen kann. Deswegen habe ich auch ohne Bonus gespielt. Leider hast du da selber schuld.

Find out my friend because it's my fault that I read the terms and conditions of the bonuses and there were no restrictions on maximum amount of bonus profit anywhere

Βρε φίλε μου γιατί φταίω εγώ που μελέτησα τους όρους και προϋποθέσεις των μπόνους και δεν υπήρχαν πουθενά οι περιορισμοί για μέγιστο ποσό κέρδους από μπόνους

I see, in that case I won't make any promises, because I don't know how the whole thing will work. We'll have to wait for the outcome of the whole investigation. Anyway, I firmly believe that it will be settled fairly. I think the casino should have such things mentioned in their Terms and Conditions.

If at that particular time it was not written anywhere what the maximum cashout from the bonus is, then I assume that the player did not know how it really is. 

Anyway, a little tip, if you want to respond to someone, use the "reply" button, let the player know that you have answered them and we will know that you have written the player back.