안녕하세요.
친구를 대신하여 이 글을 올립니다.
Pinnacle에서는 불공정하고 많은 양의 자금이 압수되었으며, 이에 대한 조치가 취해지기를 바랍니다.
진행과정에 대한 파일도 있는데 개인정보가 포함되어 있는데 개별적으로 교환이 가능한가요?
■배경
2022년 9월 19일, 2022년 9월 20일, 2022년 9월 21일 3일간 큰 승리를 거둘 수 있었던 행운이 있었습니다.
9월 22일 출금을 하려고 했더니 '현재 출금이 불가능합니다. 문의해 주세요.''라는 메시지가 떴고, 베팅을 시도하니 '현재 베팅을 할 수 없습니다.'라는 메시지가 떴습니다. 문의해 주세요.''가 표시되었습니다. 고마워.
9/22 11:10 바로 연락드렸습니다. (이미지가 포함된 첨부 1과 2)
검토하겠다는 답변을 받았고 답변을 기다리는 동안 9월 23일 2시쯤 베팅이 취소되었다는 메일이 200통 정도 왔습니다.(첨부 3, 4 이미지) 네, 그런데 단지 몇 가지. 약 200통의 이메일을 받았습니다.)
정확히 몇 번을 베팅했는지 세어보지는 못했지만, 지난 3일 동안 200번 정도 베팅한 것 같아요. 나 역시 이메일을 200통 정도 받았다. 그러다가 9월 29일에 계정이 폐쇄되어 더 이상 계정에 로그인할 수 없다는 이메일을 받았습니다. (첨부된 이미지 5,6 입니다) 이용약관 위반이라고 나와있고, 어떤 위반사항이었는지 물어봐도 답변이 없었습니다. 취소를 알리는 이메일에는 베팅이 불법적인 방법으로 이루어졌다는 내용이 기재되어 있으며, 문의에 대한 답변에는 제가 이용약관을 위반했다는 내용이 기재되어 있습니다. (첨부 7, 8)
내 생각은 다음과 같습니다. 불법적인 방법은 아마도 지연 배팅(결과를 알고 난 뒤 배팅하는 것)을 말하는 것 같습니다.
bet365는 운영이 빠르고 배팅이 너무 빨리 확정되어 포인트를 얻는 순간 바로 배팅이 가능하고 통과가 됩니다.
1xbet에는 배팅 항목이 많아서 모순된 배팅을 할 수 있거나(패할 수 없음), 마이너 시장에서 배당률이 이상합니다. 과거에도 이런 일이 여러 번 있었지만 피나클에서는 그런 일이 없습니다. . 이것은 더 이상 가능하지 않습니다. 메이저 경기와 배팅만 있기 때문이다. 이는 다양한 유저들에게 물어봐도 같은 의견이라고 생각합니다. 피나클에서는 지연 베팅으로 부정행위를 할 수 없다고 생각합니다.
이번에는 주로 테니스에서 이겼습니다. 주요 베팅은 테니스의 GAMEwin입니다.
이것은 누가 게임에서 승리할 것인가에 대한 내기입니다. 나는 이것에 라이브 베팅을 했습니다.
기본적으로 포인트 사이에만 배팅이 가능하므로 포인트가 결정된 후에는 배팅을 하지 않습니다. 그리고 애초에 그렇게 할 수는 없습니다.
우리는 이 문제에 관해 eCogra에도 문의했습니다.
그러나 "피나클은 Curacao License의 관할권에 속하므로 eCogra는 중재될 수 없습니다. Curacao License에 문의하시기 바랍니다."
연락하는 것 외에는 아무런 반응이 없었습니다.
금액은 수백만엔 이상이므로, 저와 상의해 주시면 감사하겠습니다.
안녕하세요, 저는 제 친구를 대신하여 글을 쓰고 있습니다.
친구를 대신하여 포스팅합니다.
Pinnacle에서 부당하고 대규모의 자금 몰수가 발생했으며 귀하의 답변을 듣고 싶습니다.
배경정보가 담긴 파일을 가지고 있는데, 개인정보가 포함되어 있어서 혹시 개별적으로 소통이 가능한지 궁금합니다.
배경
2022년 9월 19일, 2022년 9월 20일, 2022년 9월 21일에 저는 운이 좋아서 많은 돈을 얻었습니다.
9월 22일 출금을 시도했을 때 "현재 출금이 불가능합니다. 문의해 주세요. 베팅을 하려고 했더니 "현재는 베팅이 불가능합니다."라는 메시지가 떴습니다. 문의하시기 바랍니다. 문의하시기 바랍니다.
9/22 11:10 바로 연락드렸습니다. (이미지가 포함된 첨부 1과 2)
내 베팅을 검토하겠다는 답변을 받았고, 응답을 기다리는 동안 9월 23일 오전 2시경에 내 베팅이 취소되었다는 내용의 이메일을 약 200통 받았습니다(이미지 포함 첨부 3, 4). (이미지가 포함된 첨부 3과 4는 이야기의 일부일 뿐입니다. 저는 이러한 이메일을 약 200통 받았습니다.)
정확히 몇 배를 걸었는지 세어보지는 못했지만, 지난 3일 동안 200개 정도 배팅한 것 같아요. 나 역시 이메일을 200통 정도 받았다. 그러다가 9월 29일에 계정이 폐쇄되어 더 이상 계정에 로그인할 수 없다는 이메일을 받았습니다. (위반 사항이 무엇인지 물었지만 답변이 없어 지금 이 자리에 섰습니다. 철회를 알리는 이메일에는 승인되지 않은 방식으로 베팅이 이루어졌다고 명시되어 있었고, 문의에 대한 답변에서는 위반했다고 명시되어 있습니다. 계약 조건 (별첨 7, 8)
내 관찰은 다음과 같습니다. 아마도 불법적인 방식을 지연 배팅(결과를 알고 배팅하는 것)이라고 부르는 것이 아닐까 싶습니다.
Bet365가 너무 빠르게 작동하고, 베팅이 너무 빨리 확인되고, 포인트가 만들어지고 통과되는 순간에 베팅하는 등의 문제가 있습니다.
1xbet에는 베팅이 많기 때문에 일관성이 없는(패할 수 없음) 베팅을 하거나 소규모 시장 등에서 확률이 잘못된 베팅을 할 수 있습니다. 과거에도 몇 번 있었지만 지금은 그런 일이 불가능합니다. 작은 첨탑. 피나클은 메이저 게임과 베팅만 하기 때문에 그렇게 할 수 없습니다. 이는 다양한 유저들의 의견과 같다고 생각합니다. 피나클에서는 딜레이 배팅 같은 부정행위는 할 수 없을 것 같아요.
이번에는 주로 테니스에서 이겼습니다. 주요 베팅은 테니스에 대한 GAMEwin이었습니다.
이것은 누가 GAME에서 승리할지에 대한 베팅입니다. 나는 이것에 대해 라이브 베팅을 했습니다.
기본적으로 포인트 사이에서만 배팅이 가능하기 때문에 포인트가 결정된 후에는 배팅을 하지 않았습니다. 그리고 애초에 그렇게 할 수는 없습니다.
우리는 이 문제에 대해 eCogra에도 문의했습니다.
그러나 "Pinnacle은 현재 Curacao Licensing의 관할 하에 있으므로 eCogra는 중재를 할 수 없습니다. Curacao Licensing에 문의해 주십시오."라는 안내를 받았습니다.
사건은 진행되지 않았습니다.
금액은 수백만엔 이상인데 어떻게든 상담해주실 수 있으신지 궁금합니다.
Hello.
I am posting this on behalf of my friend.
There has been an unfair and large amount of funds confiscated at Pinnacle, and we would like to see action taken.
There is also a file about the process, but it contains personal information, so is it possible for us to exchange it individually?
■Background
I was lucky enough to win big over the three days of September 19, 2022, September 20, 2022, and September 21, 2022.
When I tried to make a withdrawal on September 22nd, the message ``Currently, withdrawals are not possible. Please contact us.'' was displayed, and when I tried to bet, the message ``Currently, bets cannot be made. Please contact us.'' was displayed. Ta.
9/22 11:10 I immediately contacted them. (Attachments 1 and 2 with images)
I received a reply that it would be reviewed, and while I was waiting for a reply, around 2:00 on September 23, I received about 200 emails saying that my bet had been cancelled.(Attachments 3 and 4 Images) Yes, but only a few. I received about 200 emails.)
I haven't counted exactly how many bets I made, but I think I made about 200 bets in the last three days. I also received about 200 emails. Then, on September 29th, I received an email saying that my account had been closed, and I was no longer able to log into my account. (There are attached images 5 and 6) It says that it is a violation of the terms and conditions, and even when I asked what kind of violation the terms and conditions were, there was no reply. The email notifying me of the cancellation stated that the bet had been placed in an illegal manner, and the response to the inquiry stated that I had violated the terms and conditions. (Attachments 7 and 8)
Here are my thoughts. I think the illegal method is probably referring to delay bets (bets made after knowing the outcome).
bet365 is fast to operate, and bets are confirmed so quickly that you can bet the moment you score a point and it goes through.
1xbet has a lot of bet items, so you can make contradictory bets (you can't lose), or the odds are strange in the minor market.This has happened several times in the past, but with Pinnacle, there are no such things. This is no longer possible. This is because there are only major matches and bets. I think this is the same opinion even if you ask various users. I don't think you can cheat with delay bets at Pinnacle.
This time I mainly won at tennis. The main bet is GAMEwin for tennis.
This is a bet on who will win the game. I placed a live bet on this.
Basically, you could only bet between points, so you don't bet after the points are determined. And you can't do that in the first place.
We also consulted eCogra regarding this matter.
However, "Since Pinnacle is under the jurisdiction of Curacao License, eCogra cannot be arbitrated. Please contact Curacao License."
There was no response except for contacting them.
The amount is in the millions of yen or more, so I would appreciate it if you could discuss this with me.
Hello, I am writing on behalf of a friend of mine.
I am posting on behalf of a friend of mine.
There has been an unjustified and large forfeiture of funds at Pinnacle and we would like your response.
I have a file with background information, but it contains personal information, so I was wondering if it would be possible to communicate with you individually.
Background
On September 19, 2022, September 20, 2022, and September 21, 2022, I was lucky and won a lot of money.
When I tried to make a withdrawal on September 22, I was told "Withdrawals are not available at this time. Please contact us. When I tried to place a bet, I got a message that said, "No bets available at this time. Please contact us. Please contact us.
9/22 11:10 I immediately contacted them. (Attachments 1 and 2 with images)
I received a response that they would review my bet, and while I was waiting for a response, I received about 200 emails around 2:00am on 9/23, stating that my bet had been canceled (Attachments 3 and 4, with images. (Attachments 3 and 4, with images, are just a part of the story. I received about 200 of these emails).
I have not counted exactly how many bets I placed, but I think I placed about 200 bets in the last 3 days. I also received about 200 e-mails. Then, on 9/29, I received an email saying that my account was closed and I could no longer log in to my account. (I asked them what the violation was, but they did not reply, and now I am here. The email notifying me of the revocation stated that the bet was placed in an unauthorized manner , and the response to my inquiry stated that I had violated the terms and conditions of the agreement. (Attachments 7 and 8)
Here are my observations. I think the illegal way is probably being referred to as delay betting (betting after knowing the outcome).
Bet365 operates too fast, bets are confirmed too fast, betting at the moment the point is made and it goes through, etc.
1xbet has a lot of bets, so you can make bets that are inconsistent (can't lose), or the odds are wrong on minor markets, etc. There have been a few times in the past, but nothing like that is possible with Pinnacle. Pinnacle is not allowed to do that, because they only have the major games and bets. I think this is the same opinion of various users. I don't think you can cheat at Pinnacle, such as delay bets.
This time I won mainly on tennis. The main bet was a GAMEwin on tennis.
This is a bet on who will win the GAME. I made a Live bet on this.
Basically, you can only bet between points, so I didn't bet after the point was decided. And you can't do that in the first place.
We also consulted eCogra about this matter.
However, we were told, "Pinnacle is now under the jurisdiction of Curacao Licensing, so eCogra is unable to arbitrate. Please contact Curacao Licensing.
The case did not proceed.
The amount is in units of several million yen or more, and we are wondering if you could somehow consult with us.
こんにちは。
私の友人の代理で投稿させていただいております。
Pinnacleにおいて不当かつ多額の資金没収があり、ご対応をいただきたいと考えております。
経緯についてのファイルもあるのですが、個人情報の記載があり、個別でやり取りさせていただくことは可能でしょうか。
■経緯
2022年9月19日、2022年9月20日、2022年9月21日の3日間で幸運が重なり大きく勝つことができました。
9月22日に出金をしようとしたら「現在、出金はできません。お問い合わせください。」という表示になり、ベットしようとしても「現在、ベットはできません。お問い合わせください。」という表示になりました。
9/22 11:10 すぐに問い合わせをしました。（添付１、２ 画像あり）
審査しますという回答が来て、返答を待っていると9/23 2:00頃に約200件ものメールが来て、私のベットが取り消されましたいう内容でした（添付３、４ 画像あり。ほんの一部です。このメールが約２００通来ました。）
正確に私がベットした数を数えていないのですがこの3日間で200回くらいはベットしたと思います。メールも約200通来てました。そして、9/29 アカウント閉鎖というメールが来て、アカウントにログインもできなくなりました。（添付５、６画像あり）規約違反と書いてあり、なんの規約違反か聞いても返信がなく、今に至っております。取り消しを通知したメールには不正な方法でベットされたと書いてあり、問い合わせの回答では規約違反をしたと書いてありました。（添付７、８）
ここからは私の考察です。不正な方法とは、おそらくディレイベット(結果を知ってからのベット)のことを言われているんだと思います。
bet365は操作が速く、ベット確定が速すぎて点が入った瞬間に賭けて、それが通ったり
1xbetはベット項目が多くて、矛盾してる(負けがありえない)ベットができたり、マイナーマーケットでオッズがおかしかったり以上のようなことは過去に何回かありましたが、Pinnacleに関してはそういったことは一切できないようになっています。試合も、ベット内容も、メジャーなところしかないからです。これは色んなユーザーに聞いても同じ意見だと思います。ピナクルでディレイベットなど不正はできないと思います。
今回私が勝利したのは主にテニスです。テニスのGAMEwinというベットが主です。
そのGAMEにどちらが勝利するかという賭け方です。これにLiveベットをしました。
基本的にポイント間でしか賭けられないようになっていたので、ポイントが決まってから賭けるようなことはしていません。そして、そもそもそういったことはできません。
また、本件はeCograにも相談をしました。
しかし、「Pinnacleはキュラソーライセンス管轄となったため、eCograは仲裁できません。キュラソーライセンスへお問合せください」
と連絡があったのみで対応は進みませんでした。
金額は数百万円以上の単位であり、なんとかご相談にのっていただけないでしょうか。
Hello, I am writing on behalf of a friend of mine.
I am posting on behalf of a friend of mine.
There has been an unjustified and large forfeiture of funds at Pinnacle and we would like your response.
I have a file with background information, but it contains personal information, so I was wondering if it would be possible to communicate with you individually.
Background
On September 19, 2022, September 20, 2022, and September 21, 2022, I was lucky and won a lot of money.
When I tried to make a withdrawal on September 22, I was told "Withdrawals are not available at this time. Please contact us. When I tried to place a bet, I got a message that said, "No bets available at this time. Please contact us. Please contact us.
9/22 11:10 I immediately contacted them. (Attachments 1 and 2 with images)
I received a response that they would review my bet, and while I was waiting for a response, I received about 200 emails around 2:00am on 9/23, stating that my bet had been cancelled (Attachments 3 and 4, with images. (Attachments 3 and 4, with images, are just a part of the story. I received about 200 of these emails).
I have not counted exactly how many bets I placed, but I think I placed about 200 bets in the last 3 days. I also received about 200 e-mails. Then, on 9/29, I received an email saying that my account was closed and I could no longer log in to my account. （I asked them what the violation was, but they did not reply, and now I am here. The email notifying me of the revocation stated that the bet was placed in an unauthorized manner, and the response to my inquiry stated that I had violated the terms and conditions of the agreement. (Attachments 7 and 8)
Here are my observations. I think the illegal way is probably being referred to as delay betting (betting after knowing the outcome).
Bet365 operates too fast, bets are confirmed too fast, betting at the moment the point is made and it goes through, etc.
1xbet has a lot of bets, so you can make bets that are inconsistent (can't lose), or the odds are wrong on minor markets, etc. There have been a few times in the past, but nothing like that is possible with Pinnacle. Pinnacle is not allowed to do that, because they only have the major games and bets. I think this is the same opinion of various users. I don't think you can cheat at Pinnacle, such as delay bets.
This time I won mainly on tennis. The main bet was a GAMEwin on tennis.
This is a bet on who will win the GAME. I made a Live bet on this.
Basically, you can only bet between points, so I didn't bet after the point was decided. And you can't do that in the first place.
We also consulted eCogra about this matter.
However, we were told, "Pinnacle is now under the jurisdiction of Curacao Licensing, so eCogra is unable to arbitrate. Please contact Curacao Licensing.
The case did not proceed.
The amount is in units of several million yen or more, and we are wondering if you could somehow consult with us.
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