Videoslots Casino - 일반 토론 (2 페이지)

All Japanese players.

Do you personally have money stuck in the casino? If you know about someone who has, just send them to Casino Guru and we'll try to help.

I remember a similar thing happened to Czech players at LeoVegas, but they gave them approximately 1 month to withdraw all their funds.

I don't know the balance because I was suddenly locked out.

So you've got the means on the account, then, have you? Have you tried emailing to find out more about the situation ? 

For example, what's the problem with not accepting players from your country all of a sudden ? Or what to do if you still have money in your account ?

However, in your situation I would also recommend filing a complaint if the problem persists, which I think it probably will. If you decide to open one, you can do so here at this link: https://casino.guru/complaints

Are you going to try it ?

I contacted support but was unable to.

Reason.

The casino requires English address information to verify your identity, but since I registered my address in Japanese on this site, it is impossible to verify it.

They ask me how I made my last deposit, how much I deposited, and what games I played the most, but there is no way I can find out if I can't log in to the casino.

I understand. But I still see that you didn't use our complaint feature in this case. Don't you think it's worth it?

However, isn't it possible that the casino will allow you to log in to get the information they want from you ? Didn't you ask them if there was some way to resolve your situation ? 

It is difficult to recommend anything in this situation, but I think a complaint would be in order. At least it is a worthy attempt.

Without any notice, I suddenly couldn't log in, and when I contacted them, I was told that I couldn't log in because they had withdrawn from Japan. When I told them that I would like to withdraw the balance in my account, they asked me for the bank account information to which I would like the refund to be made.Although it has been about 3 months since I told them the information, they still haven't refunded me the money. I have asked them many times, but they just say that there is a problem and that they are currently working on fixing the problem and that they will refund the money once the problem is fixed.

I've communicated with him many times, but every time I get the same response, I don't know what to do anymore. Could you please let me know if there is any way to solve this problem?

お知らせとかもなく急にログインできなくなり、問い合わせしたら日本を撤退したのでログインできないと言われました。それならアカウントにある残高を引き出したいと伝えたところ、返金する銀行口座の情報を聞かれ、しっかり伝えたのに3か月くらい経ちますが、返金してくれないです。何回も催促しましたが、問題が発生していて、現在問題を改善するように努めていて改善したら返金しますみたいな返答するだけで返金してくれません。

何度もやりとりしましたが、毎回同じ返答でもうどうしたらいいか私にはわかりません。どうにかこの問題を解決する方法があったら教えてもらえませんか？

I used payz, but in the end I was able to withdraw money (after canceling the promotional email).

I finally made a complaint here and urged them to do so. . .

自分はpayzでしたが最終的には出金できました（プロモーションメールの解除ついで）。

ここにクレームを入れて催促してようやくですが。。。

Hi, I think the most sensible thing to do in this case would be to file a complaint. I think 3 months is a very long time to wait, even though the casino reports some problems. If you decide to file a complaint, you can open one here: https://jp.casino.guru/complaints/%e3%81%99%e3%81%b8%e3%82%99%e3%81%a6

Anyway, what is the casino's specific issue if you still can't withdraw your money ? Is it something particular ? 

VIDEO SLOTS WARNING

This is how the odds are rigged by the gambling giant - swindling customers of winnings

The professional player: "That's why it's very difficult to win"

UPDATED:

ON WEDNESDAY 17:11

PUBLISHED:

ON WEDNESDAY 15:00

The gaming company Videoslots systematically cheats customers of winnings in ongoing match games, so-called live betting.

Cold facts reveal this in a new review which shows that the company's model regularly gives odds that are to the customers' disadvantage.

- It is very difficult to win, says professional player Johan Jönsson.

Cold facts have, with the help of gambler Johan Jönsson, who for many years made a living from gambling, mapped the online casino Videoslot's system for odds in games on ongoing matches and competitions.

The review was done by following him for a period and documenting the odds Videoslots gives when the conditions in the ongoing match change in the gap between a bet being placed and the company accepting it. That consideration time can be up to 15 seconds.

When the odds have time to increase during that time, the review shows that Videoslot's model is rigged so that the player still automatically wins at the lower odds that were given before the conditions changed. If the odds are lowered during the consideration period, the bet is automatically rejected by Videoslots.

This is an odds model that other major betting companies do not have.

Small sums for the customer – large sums for the company

An example in the review comes from a tennis match between Holger Rune and Stefano Tsitsipas, where Johan Jönsson makes a bid and the odds are raised during the consideration period.

- If Tsitsipas now wins this ball, they will cheat, says Johan Jönsson and then states that the win is given to the lower odds.

The odds can change several times a minute and a tenth of a change means that the customer loses 10 kroner in profit on a bet 100 note, or 50 kroner on a bet 500 note. Small money for an individual may seem, but the total amounts involved for the company can be very large. How big is impossible to calculate without access to Videoslot's own numbers.

After all, it is these margins that determine whether you win or lose. Any players who go with their phones and don't know what's going on in the match will be robbed of winnings. That is why it is very difficult to win, says Johan Jönsson.

Stopped by gambling company

Johan Jönsson has been convicted of accounting offenses linked to his gambling, a sentence he has appealed. The background to this is that for many years gambling companies tried to stop him as a winner and from playing larger sums and that Johan Jönsson therefore borrowed gambling accounts from acquaintances.

Because some friends borrowed money at the same time, the prosecutor and the district court believe that it should have been recorded.

Videoslots responds

Despite repeated requests, Videoslots did not want to be interviewed. In an email to Kalla fakta, the company's representative, lawyer Mats Boman, denies that their system denies bets in favor of Videoslot:

"Videoslots has no systems that can systematically deny bets in favor of Videoslots based on the development of a match."

He also writes that:

"A player organizer always has an advantage when betting. This advantage makes it possible to conduct a commercial activity to the benefit of a player organizer's shareholders. Videoslots can never accept bets that jeopardize Videoslots' ability to pay out winnings."

Cold facts, on the other hand, do not get answers to the specific questions about why the recordings in that case show what they show and why Videoslots does it in a different way than other gambling companies on the Swedish market today.

Cold facts is a social-examining program on tv4

VARNING FÖR VIDEOSLOTS

Så riggas oddsen av speljätten – snuvar kunder på vinstpengar

Yrkesspelaren: "Därför är det väldigt svårt att vinna"

UPPDATERAD:

I ONSDAGS 17:11

PUBLICERAD:

I ONSDAGS 15:00

Spelbolaget Videoslots snuvar systematiskt kunder på vinstpengar i pågående matchspel, så kallad livebetting.

Det avslöjar Kalla fakta i en ny granskning som visar att bolagets modell regelmässigt ger odds som är till kundernas nackdel.

– Det är väldigt svårt att vinna, säger yrkesspelaren Johan Jönsson.

Kalla fakta har med hjälp av gamblern Johan Jönsson, som i många år försörjt sig på spel, kartlagt nätkasinot Videoslots system för odds i spel på pågående matcher och tävlingar.

Granskningen gjordes genom att under en period följa honom och dokumentera vilka odds Videoslots ger när förutsättningarna i pågående match ändras i glappet mellan att ett vad lagts och bolaget accepterat det. Den betänketiden kan vara i uppemot 15 sekunder.

När oddset hinner höjas under den tiden visar granskningen att Videoslots modell är riggad så att spelaren ändå automatiskt vinner till det lägre oddset som gavs innan förutsättningarna ändrats. Om oddset hinner sänkas under betänketiden avslås vadet automatiskt av Videoslots.

Det här är en oddsmodell som andra stora spelbolag inte har.

Små summor för kunden – stora belopp för bolaget

Ett exempel i granskningen kommer från en tennismatch mellan Holger Rune och Stefano Tsitsipas, där Johan Jönsson lägger ett bud och oddset höjs under betänketiden.

– Om Tsitsipas nu vinner den här bollen så kommer de att fuska, säger Johan Jönsson och konstaterar sedan att vinsten ges till det lägre oddset.

Oddset kan ändras flera gånger i minuten och en tiondels förändring innebär att kunden snuvas på 10 kronor i vinst på en satsad 100-lapp, eller 50 kronor på en satsad 500-lapp. Små pengar för en enskild kan tyckas, men de sammanlagda beloppen det handlar om för bolaget kan vara mycket stora. Hur stora är omöjligt att beräkna utan tillgång till Videoslots egna siffror.

Det är ju de här marginalerna det handlar om som avgör om man vinner eller förlorar. Alla spelare som går med sina telefoner och inte vet vad som händer i matchen blir snuvade på vinstpengar. Därför är det väldigt svårt att vinna, säger Johan Jönsson.

Stoppats av spelbolag

Johan Jönsson har dömts för bokföringsbrott kopplat till sitt spelande, en dom han överklagat. Bakgrunden till det är att spelbolag i många år försökt stoppa honom som vinnare och från att spela större summor och att Johan Jönsson därför lånat spelkonton av bekanta.

Eftersom några vänner samtidigt lånat pengar menar åklagaren och tingsrätten att det skulle ha bokförts.

Videoslots svarar

Videoslots har trots upprepade förfrågningar inte velat ställa upp på en intervju. I mejl till Kalla fakta nekar bolagets representant, advokat Mats Boman till att deras system nekar insatser till Videoslots fördel:

"Videoslots har inga system som systematiskt kan neka insatser till Videoslots fördel baserat på utvecklingen i en match."

Han skriver också att:

"En spelarrangör har alltid en fördel vid vadslagning. Denna fördel gör att det går att bedriva en kommersiell verksamhet till nytta för en spelarrangörs aktieägare. Videoslots kan aldrig acceptera insatser som äventyrar Videoslots möjlighet att betala ut vinster."

Kalla fakta får däremot inte svar på de specifika frågorna om varför inspelningarna i så fall visar det de visar och varför Videoslots gör på ett annat sätt än andra spelbolag på den svenska marknaden i dag.

Kalla fakta är ett samhällsgranskande program på tv4

Hello, I read this post and it looks to me like an article copied from a source. This isn't your casino experience, is it ? 

Did you also have a bad experience in a casino or did you just want to point out something like that ? 

Hello.

The article is copied from the television channel tv4.

sends with a link about the site's actions towards its customers.

The post is only a warning about what they are up to without any scruples.

I have an account there but I don't play on odds - and I haven't won anything on that site so I've closed as a "cool off"

Hej.

Artikeln är kopierad från tv kanalen tv4.

skickar med länk om sitens agerande gentemot sina kunder.

Inlägget är endast en varning om vad de håller på med utan några skrupler.

Jag har konto där men jag spelar inte på odds - och jag inte vunnit nånting på den sidan så jag har stängt som en "cool off"

Well, I find it quite interesting. What makes you so certain that this information is correct?

Do you hold so much faith in television? Since this is an open forum, I suggest you share your own experiences with this casino so your words have some value for others. What do you think?

It might be hard if you have never actually played there, I guess. 🤷‍♀️

Hello. It's a fairly simple answer You get here:

https://www.tv4.se/artikel/7xZ4NKfTDAG4p7iqTEnz7d/flera-spelbolag-hade-oddsmodell-spelarna-snuvas-pa-pengar

Follow the link and you can decide for yourself whether I am right or wrong.

Hej. Det är ett ganska enkelt svar Du får här:

https://www.tv4.se/artikel/7xZ4NKfTDAG4p7iqTEnz7d/flera-spelbolag-hade-oddsmodell-spelarna-snuvas-pa-pengar

Följ länken så kan Du själv avgöra om jag har rätt eller fel.

Well, I'm not here to decide whether someone is wrong or right.

Allow me to demonstrate the main principle: this is an open forum, players from all around the globe come here to share their insights and experiences. If the casino has done anything unfair to you, go ahead and explain.

Use your own words to describe the situation. How long have you played here, I wonder? Have you ever encountered anything out of order?

I'm asking because we may even try to help.

And honestly, many more players will read your description rather than investigate the links. This is also a good thing to know. 😉

Just a question,I win a week ago,money was transferred to my bank account. But my casino account was blocked. Is that happen to anybody else.

Hi, did you also get any explanation or was it from one day to the next ? Did you have any money in the player's account ? 

However, I must mention that if not, casinos have the option to close the player's account without giving a reason. It's sad but that's the way it is, so I'm wondering if you got any explanation or not. 🤔