온라인 도박에서 사기를 피하는 요령 (5 페이지)

Well, it's not cheating, unfortunately. In some casinos you have to wager a deposit multiple times and it happens more and more the more normal it is. 5x is enough and more would be unserious and 6x is probably the first time I've seen it. That would probably discourage me from playing too.

But did you succeed or not ? 

Hi and thanks for your contribution. I would say it is random and if you are interested you can read this guide. 

However, I definitely appreciate it if you take a break if you can't and definitely your view that you can use the money for something more meaningful rather than playing slots. That's a very nice view. 

I hope it lasts as long as possible. 🙂

That y you lose to this scammer. Be it sports or game all casino be it online or Vegas walk in . All 1 x wager cash win and you can cash out all.

I will expose all his scammer with unfair tactics.

I always play win once and cash out in casino or sports. This is the first time I see deposit must be play 6x no wonder players lose.

This is the first time I've seen it being 6x. But actually I've seen enough times that it's 3 or 5x, so it's not something that's strange for me. 

Anyway, I understand your feelings and I probably wouldn't play in a casino like that anymore. 😥

Any one here can recommend me a good sports casino ? With all markets?

Bet365

Bet365

You know what . Beet365 one of biggest cheats. Long ago no longer using them. If you see their feedback you will know. This book maker is condemned long ago

I can't help it then. Why don't you play in Asian houses? There they win on a completely different principle. They also have casinos, they also have promotions. The markets are extremely few but very low margin. The ones on which a lot of money is bet, the others are with "standard". I don't think Bet365 are "scammers", but anyway, you can think what you want. Asian houses can't be, they win with the professional bettors, it's a whole other ecosystem. They have bots that monitor the bettors and change the odds based on the success of the bettors. This is exactly what is being copied from European houses. But mistakes happen in the process and, accordingly, they lose money from professionals. While Asians have no mistakes, they always win, no need to cheat, what's the real point!?

Не мога да помогна тогава. Защо не играеш в азиатските къщи? Там печелят на съвсем друг принцип. Имат и казина, имат и промоции. Пазарите са изключително малко, но са с много нисък марж. Тези, на които се залага много пари, другите са със "стандартен". Не мисля, че Bеt365 са "измамници" , но както и да е, може да си мислиш, каквото си поискаш. Азиатските къщи няма как да са, те печелят заедно с професионалните залагащи, съвсем друга екосистема е. Имат ботове, които следят залагащите и променят коефициентите, спрямо успеха на залагащите. Това именно се копира от европейските къщи. Но стават грешки при процеса и съответно губят пари от професионалисти. Докато при азиатците грешки няма, те винаги печелят, няма нужда да мамят, какъв реално е смисълът!?

Everywhere people are complaining that slots are "just taking and not giving anymore". Maybe because they are different...They are much more varied. Because many people like these kind of slots. And in casinos, the slots are mostly like that. Like some old classics tweaked, with jackpots and big wins. Which makes them variable and with very different "behavior". Also, this is somewhat of a measure against bonus hunters. Because that way they are not particularly attracted, it is more difficult, they need a much bigger bank, there is also a risk that they will not verify their account, because it is not in their name, but it is a question of much more money. From the "usual"... . I have found suitable bonus slots, but they are from unpopular providers and are fairly new. Meaning they haven't been blacklisted by casinos yet.

Навсякъде хората се оплакват, че слотовете "вече само вземат и не дават". Може би защото са различни...Много по-вариативни са. Понеже много хора харесват точно такива слотове. И по казината слотовете са предимно такива. Като някои стари класики са изменени, с джакпот и с големи печалби. Което ги прави вариативни и с много различно "поведение". Също и това донякъде е мярка срещу бонус хънтърите. Защото така не ги привличат особено, по-трудно е, трябва доста по-голяма банка, също има риск да не им верифицират акаунта, понеже не е на тяхно име, а става въпрос за доста повече пари. От "обичайното"... . Аз съм намирал подходящи слотове за бонуси, но са на непопулярни доставчици и са доста нови. В смисъл все още не са попаднали в черния списък на казината.

Hi, I see you've already got some recommendations, so you can write later how you did there. We don't focus on sports betting so I probably won't be able to recommend something that would suit you. But what is important for you to have a bookmaker ?

Right now all I can say almost all online gaming casino betting 90% of them are pure scam. Even the the remaining 10%. Even is real , they still restrict you after a threshold or you win above USD $3000. Be it sports or gaming or blackjack. They come will out will all fake reason that you cheat and block you. Trust me. Only a few is real. So now I limit my bet anything above $1000 USD is live casino be it sports or what ever. Win cash out asap no excuse no kyc nothing. As I say you walk in live to casino say Vegas $100000 cash win and asap cash out. No kyc needed. online is convenient but due to many scam not paying winners. They are qualified to play for me now I place $10. To $300USd. Win withdrawal that it . No roll over.

I didn't understand..Neither with the translator. If you make such a large bets, why do you need "all the markets"..My post is deleted. Did I have a ban or something. Why? He shouldn't play in Europe. At this stage. What wrong did I said?

I mean if you have such a "capital", when you should avoid Europe , it's Asia that you seek..Here is my post, sorry, I am high, early at the morning. I mean, mate, in Asia no limits. No limits for nothing. People do bet 10 000 euro and nothing happens. It's normal there...And they don't care what do you win. As long someone is betting against you...No all the markets, no..But for the casino, you can bet whatever and no restrictions . nothing, you can withdraw you money at the moment. If you want to..I mean for the sports bets, you can bet 10 000 , as long someone is betting against you, if the coefficient is low, you can bet even more..And they don't ban people, why should they!? If you win, they want to win WITH YOU, they want you to win. Their money are not your money.They don't want your money. If you play sport bets.

I mean the bets are so large, they are full of money, they don't need your 10 000 or 20 000 or whatever. They need info. 2% is the margin, only two. If you are a clever one, you can beat that and pay nothing for gambling. Or even win..I mean +EV bets..Of course it's be a little, 2-3% ROI, but it's different from gambling, you pay 2-3% at every bet. To gamble in the casino..If you use 100$ bet at some slot, you pay $3 very time, 100 times at hour. Simple math...Very expensive "hobi"..If you know nothing, you can just support them. For example England - Angola, some match , there almost for certain England will win. everyone is betting for England, millions and millions in bets. They need support, so support them. They will pay you for that...If you win, you both win, you and the booky, you win together..I am not lying..Why should I ?

What do I mean..Maybe it's hard to understand. For example the same match. It's 2 or 1.95 for Angola +3.5 handicap , i don't know the exact strength, this is just for the example. You see in the other bookmakers 1.80 for the same selection. This means "Help!". This means "it's too much, help us". And you answer, you bet at this. And you make a +EV bet. It's still gambling, but the chances are better for you, not for the house, like in the casino betting.And if Angola loose only with 3 goals, you both win, you and the booky. They win as well..You are not an "enemies". But friends...They don't "hate" you, they don't want you to loose, they want you to win.

And if you are such a crazy gambler, you can bet for 0:0. They will pay you even more...And like you even more, lol..But you will loose very often. Still will be +EV bet, because the coefficient will be very high. If you have enough money, nothing wrong in that. You are not a "pure gambler", you are a "pro bettor".

And what about the skills? Let's say you know something about some team. You follow this team, you know everything. You see something and the coefficient is wrong. You see this as "wrong" . You know something, what they don't. You bet, you win, they loose money. They still don't hate you. They start to follow you. Next time you bet, they change the odds after your bet. "Ok, lets see what you know about this". You win, they win as well. You are friends again...

I am just joking 🙂...You can delete everything..Or I will..

"Mando"?..."Clearly"? How this can be more clear? If you see some Asian house, they say "pro players welcome". And this is not a joke. The pro players and Asian houses make profit TOGETHER. From people like you. But a lot richer people. Who are attracted from the lower margin. Which is possible, because the Asian booky have pro players behind them, they work together. And no one can beat the pro players. Even the bookies with all this "AI", algorithms, data base and etc..And you are just a gambler. Go on, go gamble , hoping for a big win. Having "fun". It's no "fun" in this. Nothing funny to lose a money. In some stupid looking game. With all this fruits, animals and etc. Goon, have fun...Pay for my rent. And thank you...

Dear player,

As you can see, we admins are not the only ones who don't understand you. Could you perhaps try to avoid other misunderstandings and use your mother tongue instead? This forum provides an inbuilt auto translator; perhaps it's time to give it a try. I would also like to remind you that your tone is not very friendly. Please be respectful, or your post will be hidden and your account closed.

We all aim to have friendly and easy-to-comprehend conversations without offensive tone or "stupid gambler" expressions.

Shall we agree on following the guidelines, please?

https://casinoguru-en.com/terms-and-conditions

I hope we can.

Do you think it will be clearer? With the translator? I think I express myself clearly enough in English. But well...He laughs and mocks me. Is that how we're going to play? Okay...But yeah, he's the funny one here. Gives you an amount of money in a game that is described everywhere as a "losing" game, Nobody is lying to him. No one tells him otherwise. If you gamble, you will LOSE. He loses and then finds fault with someone. Not in yourself, but in someone else. That they were frauds. Who makes you play when you're told you're going to lose? And now you're grumbling. And you laugh at someone who says that you can make money from it, as long as you do it correctly. There is no "easy money" in this life. You won't win if you start playing these machines with fruits, monkeys, etc. No... Even a child will understand that. There's nothing wrong with "having fun" as long as you can afford it. But then to complain, that's already funny. And it's a shame...

Мислиш,че ще е по-ясно? С преводача? Мисля, че се изразявам на английски достатъчно ясно. Но добре...Той се присмива и ме иронизира. Така ли ще си играем?Добре...Но да, той е смешният в случая. Дава сума ти пари в игра, която навсякъде е описана, като игра " в която губим", Никой не го лъже. Никой не му казва обратното. Ако играеш хазарт, ще ЗАГУБИШ. Той губи и после търси вината в някой. Не в себе си, а в някой друг. Че били измамници. Кой те кара да играеш, след като ти казват, че ще загубиш? И сега мрънкаш. И си присмиваш на някой, който казва, че от това може да се печели, стига да го правиш коректно. Няма "лесни пари" в този живот. Няма да спечелиш, ако започнеш да играеш на тези машинки с плодчета, с маймунки и т.н. Няма...Това и дете ще го разбере. Няма нищо лошо да се "забавляваш", стига да можеш да си го позволиш. Но после да се оплакваш, ей това вече е смешно. И жалко...

Bet365 were "swindlers". This is what he said...Bet365 are the biggest sports operator. And they make billions from sports betting. Where it is not possible to cheat. bet365 don't care about your pennies..they didn't need your pennies. That they commit crimes to take them from you. You're going to give them to yourself anyway...

Бет365 били "измамници". Това каза той...Бет365 са най-големият спортен оператор. И правят милиарди от спортни залози. Където не е възможно да се мами. На бет365 не им пука за твоите стотинки..Не са им притрябвали твоите стотинки. Че да извършват прстъпления, за да ти ги вземат. Ти така или иначе ще си ги дадеш...